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Downturn in pub trade not caused by smoking ban


Cheap supermarket alcohol blamed

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Published Date: 02 May 2008
A Strabane publican has rubbished claims that a downturn in business has been caused by the smoking ban.
Speaking on the first anniversary of the smoking ban, Gerard McGill, proprietor of Felix's Bar in Strabane, told the 'Journal' that the decline in the pub trade has not been caused by the introduction of the smoking ban but rather by "big supermarkets" selling cheaper alcohol.

"Although I have noticed a downturn in business, probably about 2% from this time last year, I couldn't say that it has been caused by the smoking ban. Most of my customers have adjusted well to the ban, they accepted that they had to go outside without any fuss. People were used to it with the ban already in place down south a few years before." he said.

Mr. McGill said that in contrast to many other publicans in the town he was fortunate that he had the space to make a heated shelter for his 'smoking' customers in a private area outside of his premises.

Desirable

"I think it helps when the smokers know that they can go out for a smoke without having to stand out on the street in view of passersby, it doesn't look very desirable having large crowds smoking and throwing their butts on the street," he said.

Mr. McGill continued: "Since big supermarkets like ASDA have come into the town and the government have taxed alcohol even further in an attempt to stop binge drinking, we cannot compete with ASDA selling multipacks of cans of beer in special offers," he said.

However, Mr. McGill said that since the smoking ban he has noticed a decline in his daytime trade which would have been mainly the older generation.

"They are just not coming out in the same numbers anymore since the smoking ban.

"I have heard some of my regulars complain about going outside especially in the winter.

'Good thing'

"They don't smoke as much either, I would find half smoked butts in the ashtrays, which could be a good thing for their health," he said.

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  • Last Updated: 02 May 2008 11:47 AM
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mandyv,

03/05/2008 16:24:28
There are those who keep saying that the smoking ban is not the cause of closures. Supermarket drink has always been cheaper. The credit crunch does not seem to make a differance when the sun comes out or it is warmer. How strange, today it is sunny and lots of people are outside with their smokes. Come the rain or cold, they are not inside or outside the pub, they will be at home like myself and Hubby buying from the supermarket.
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David WB,

lincoln 03/05/2008 16:53:51
Its good to hear that some pubs are weathering the storm.

But, I have to say, this is a blatant piece of inept propaganda (the accompanying photo sort of gives the game away....)

Maybe Natasha Tourish should have interviewed one of the many ex-publicans who have lost their homes and businesses during the last few months - they certainly won't be grinning like a gang of Cheshire cats.

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NoBanJan,

Manchester 03/05/2008 17:54:28
Of course the smoking ban is primarily to blame for publicans losing money hand over fist. Stop burying your heads in the sand and stop believing the anti-smoking propaganda we are constantly fed. Why should customers pay over the top prices for a drink and then have to go outside in all weathers to have a cigarette, no wonder we are staying home in our droves! Give publicans the freedom to allow smoking in their pubs if they want to, there would still be plenty of places for the anti smokers to go to.
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Phil Williams,

Norfolk 03/05/2008 17:59:28
What a shallow attempt at trying to down play the impact of the smoking ban.
If they want to blame super market booze, then they must consider who's drinking it. The smokers that have been ousted from the pubs are sitting at home with their cans, desperate to return to the former welcome of smoke friendly pubs.
Canned beer, no matter how cheap, is no substitute for a proper pint in the warm friendly atmosphere of a pub. But there is nothing comfortable about being forced outside thanks to a spitefull law that serves only to pander to the selfish demands of an anti smoking minority (Who don't even go to pubs anyway).
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DaveA,

Room 101 03/05/2008 18:45:38
Can someone explain to me why in 2006 200 pubs closed and supermarket booze was cheap and you could smoke in pubs. But in 2007 1400+ pubs have closed, you can't smoke and supermarket booze is cheap. Sounds to me the establishment is wading in an African river, denile.
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helend498,

UK 03/05/2008 20:24:39
This article, in my opinion, is yet another attempt by the anti-smoking movement to mislead once again. It is absolute rubbish that pubs have not been affected by the smoking ban. There has always been cheap booze in the supermarkets, but this didn't keep people away. The smoking ban did. Open your eyes and wash out your ears and discover what is truely happening around you.
By the way, the public aren't as daft as they appear either. They do go around with their eyes and ears open and know exactly what is happening and are getting rather sick and tired of it.
I wonder if Mr McGill will still be as happy to report this sort of story when the effects reach him?
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Rob Simpson,

UK 03/05/2008 21:13:51
DaveA, you are correct a SEVENFOLD increase in the pub closure rate cannot be attributed to a slight increase in the difference between the price of alcohol in a pub versus the supermarkert.
From my point of view this announcement is that it is, pure an simple, an insult to the public's intelligence.
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ChrisC,

on the boat to Spain 06/05/2008 21:57:17
Cheap supermarket drink has been around for years: the smoking ban has not!
AND this chap contradicts his headline by stating that his older customers don't come out any more since the smoking ban THUS admitting it has had an effect - The effect is upon people whose social health has been destroyed by the newly righteous. People have relied upon him and other licensees for a measure of pleasure in their lives but, just like our MPs, he doesn't care as long as he is doing ok.
We have been lied to, we have been deceived, we have been preached to, we have been controlled and we have been condemned by people who fail to repay the respect we showed in the ballot box. Their expenses without receipts are more than most of us earn and yet they want more at our expense.
Lets hope his customers read this and realise the contempt this man has for them and leave him with Brown, Darling, the members of ASH and sundry well paid, obedient health experts as his only customers.
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